I think its about time for me to realize that the only way to earn any money online is to be a thief, a crook, a lier, a con artist, a scammer.
The simple fact is I work hard every day, all day, 7 days a week, with nothing to show for it except a loss of time and money. For the past 10 years all I ever wanted to do is earn some honest money using the computer.
I have 6 computers. 3 laptops, 3 desktops, as I upgraded I just kept my old computers. They all have different information on them about making money online.
All with different software that I bought and some free programs. I still go back to some of the older files to see if I have something in there that I may have missed. Its easy enough because I run a network and share all my files with each pc.
Never have I tried to scam anyone or try to get something for nothing. I always tried to be as honest as I could be. I just felt that because I work hard and don't take the easy way that I would eventually find the answer to making money on the Internet.
I'm finding the wrong answer. I never thought that the answer would be what I suspected for years. But I don't know if I can continue my quest any longer, to do a simple thing. The simple thing to be honest and STILL make money online.
I ask myself every day, what the hell am I missing. What am I doing wrong. I just don't understand why. I try and try, day after day, week after week, year after year, and still no good results. I still just don't get it.
Being a VIRGO I am exactly what the sign says. Except for one thing. The definition says that virgo tries to be PERFECT. That to me, in my case, is not true. I just try to make things right the first time. Whenever I do anything, no matter what it is, I want to do it right the first time. I just hate to do anything over again.
Anything I do, no matter what it is, I am never afraid to sign my name to it. I will never hide from anything. If I do something and its not right, nobody can be harder on me than me.
And for all these years, following that crazy dream of earning money online, nobody can be any harder on me than myself.
With all the time and money that it has cost me and my wife, for my crazy idea that I can make money online, it just makes me sick.
I woke up this morning no closer to making any money. Still with no job. Still not knowing if things are going to get any better financially. I'm getting to the point of not knowing what else to do.
I run ads daily, signed up for so many affiliate programs, and just don't know what else to do.
Ive run my own website for years trying to find the right answer. I never thought that it would be something that would happen overnight. And that's the only thing that I was right about. It sure didn't happen overnight. It just didn't happen.
I signed up for some programs years ago, when they were in pre launch. Now people make money with them, and I somehow was left in the dust.
Ive read so many articles and downloaded so many ebooks, and paid for god only knows
how many ebooks. I find different programs that promise to show you exactly how, but
never really do.
The whole thing comes down to TRAFFIC. Not hits. Real traffic. I paid for so much traffic and never , ever got anything from that. I put ads on forums, and free classified sites. I have done everything I was told and still nothing.
Maybe its just me. Maybe the answer is me. Maybe the answer is as simple as looking
at myself. Maybe the answer is not everyone else.
Maybe I have been running the biggest scam on myself, and not knowing it. Can that be it? Wouldn't that be something. Running a scam on myself. Thinking if I spend the money and time, I would end up making money. Isn't that what a scam is? Offering something but never giving anything?
So maybe the answer is me.
Monday, April 20, 2009
Monday, April 13, 2009
REPOST ...... MY TOP SCAM OF ALL TIME
I just had to repost this article because I feel it is the TOP SCAM that I have found.
All SCAMS are important, but when you
find a SCAM that is run by some of the
most dishonest group, it must be listed as the TOP SCAM. I plan to repost this SCAM
from time to time, thats how strong I feel about this SCAM.
The most dangerous scam on the Internet.
Thrive Learning Institute.
What I will tell you is that they can REALLY sell snow to the Eskimo's.
I unfortunately got involved with them in October, 2008, when my wife
received a phone call about 8:00 pm, by someone named J.P.
That is short for his name, J----n P---i, you have to fill in the blanks.
What his pitch was that they have 100% satisfied client's, and are
looking for testimonial's.
They GUARANTEE 100% SATISFIED CLIENT'S.
They offer you one on one training, personal coaches and you
WILL RECEIVE ALL YOUR INVESTMENT BACK WITHIN 90 DAY'S.
It sure sounded like the kind of deal I couldn't turn down.
Then came the price, $ 6,250.00, the total cost of this amazing money
making opportunity, being put on my credit card.
After I told him that there was NO WAY I COULD AFFORD TO PAY
MY CREDIT CARD FOR THIS, he said I would have ALL MY MONEY BACK
BEFORE THE STATEMENT CAME IN.
My wife knowing that I was in such a deep depression thought this
was the LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, convinced me to
go ahead and do it.
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A NIGHTMARE, that I live each
day.
Set up a Ebay selling account , but product's from a dropshipper to
sell, and within a short time, maybe even DAY'S you will have most
if not all your money back.
I asked JP if I had to spend more money after I paid the $ 6,250,
and he said the only money I had to pay was a hosting fee,of $ 39.95
per month, for a website they wanted me to setup to sell dropship product's.
I told him that was a lot of money for a hosting fee, and that I already deal
with a hosting company that was less expensive, can't I just use the
one I have.
He said we need you to use our host because it is easier for us to help
you setup your website, we do most of the work REMOTELY from
our office.
The help that I received and the tool's they supplied me with were no
better than what you can get online for free, and on Ebay.
The so called HELP was no help at all.
I would call and ask a question, and they would answer something that
made no sense. It was like they were answering someone else.
After a few time's that turned into them saying you need to keep at it,
you need to list item's over and over untill they sell.
They said, JP, that IT TAKES TIME TO MAKE MONEY, YOU JUST HAVE
TO KEEP AT IT.
Well the dropshipper's prices were HIGHER than what I could get them for
on Ebay, the place they insist I sell.
How can I sell something for LESS THEN I PAY ?
After week after week, hour after hour, and email after email, and phone
call after phone call, getting RIDICULOUS ANSWER'S, I couldn't handle
it anymore.
I emailed them and said I wanted my money back.
They refused. I was sent an email from S--N, a so called manager.
His email also made NO SENSE.
Contact me by phone so we can help you.
Call so he could talk me into spending more money I dont have.
I had my wife contact them, and they said if I wouldnt LET THEM
HELP ME , THEY COULDNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
She asked what she could do, and AGAIN THE DOUBLE TALK WENT
ON.
Again telling her that it takes time to make money, just keep listing
item's over and over, and get your website built.
If I cant make a sale with instant customers, now, how long do you think
it would take to sell products from a website.
They wanted their hosting fee every month, and who knows what else they
would get out of me before I had another heart attack.
THE NAME THRIVE FITS THEM TO THE TEE !
THEY THRIVE ON ANYONE THEY CAN.
My Ebay listing fee's were over $ 150.00, and going up with no sales
and all they keep saying is keep at it, and you need to get your website
setup so you can sell from it.
I started to setup the website, they had a MERCHANT CREDIT CARD
SERVICE CALL ME.
You need to do this so you can accept credit cards on your website.
I gave the info the girl wanted, and said what if I didn't go through with
this, can I cancel?
She said yes, just DON'T ACTIVATE the account and cancel it, you have
45 days before you get billed.
I said get billed for what?
She said there is a minimum charge of $ 25.00 a month if you have
no sales from your website.
Well, I canceled within 3 weeks, and what a surprise I got.
I sent 3 email's telling them to cancel my account. And when I
spoke to her on the phone I said that I would not be setting up
the website because of a DISPUTE with Thrive.
She said she NEVER HEARD OF THRIVE but agreed to cancel.
Come to find out they involved 2 other companies, and I dont know
why. One was American Express.
When I received a welcome package from American Express, I didnt know what it
was for, so I called.
The guy I talked to said this was for my MERCHANT ACCOUNT.
I told him I did not have a merchant account or a business, that I did
start to setup an online business but didnt continue because of a
disput with THRIVE.
Again, this guy from American Express said he didnt know who that was.
He canceled the account on the spot.
The other is Imax. Which I have no idea who they are or what they
do except charge money.
I really dont know which of these two charged me, it wasnt American Express.
I was getting $ 45.00 taken RIGHT OUT OF MY BANK, without ever
knowing.
This whole deal with Thrive has been a nightmare.
My feeling for them cannot being told here.
I figured out EXACTLY HOW THEY WORK.
WHAT THEY DO IS GIVE YOU THE WORST COACHING YOU
CAN GET. THEY GIVE YOU ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS
THAT MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO GET
FRUSTRATED AND THEN THEY SAY YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT
They are the worst people that live. their purpose is NEVER to help
anyone make money but THEM.
They don't know how to make HONEST MONEY.
The biggest SCAM is to tell you what you want to hear UNTIL
THEY GET YOUR MONEY.
Then they never refuse to help you and will talk to you all day long,
never giving you ANY INFORMATION THAT WILL REALLY HELP.
And thats their SCAM.
Helping WITHOUT HELPING YOU.
The more they HELP you, the more frustrated you become until
you cant take it anymore.
You wind up not dealing with them anymore, your choice, and
they KEEP ALL YOUR MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING THAT
WAS PROMISED.
WHAT A SCAM.
STAY AWAY FROM THRIVE LEARNING INSTITUTION
YOU DONT WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING FROM THEM !
All SCAMS are important, but when you
find a SCAM that is run by some of the
most dishonest group, it must be listed as the TOP SCAM. I plan to repost this SCAM
from time to time, thats how strong I feel about this SCAM.
The most dangerous scam on the Internet.
Thrive Learning Institute.
What I will tell you is that they can REALLY sell snow to the Eskimo's.
I unfortunately got involved with them in October, 2008, when my wife
received a phone call about 8:00 pm, by someone named J.P.
That is short for his name, J----n P---i, you have to fill in the blanks.
What his pitch was that they have 100% satisfied client's, and are
looking for testimonial's.
They GUARANTEE 100% SATISFIED CLIENT'S.
They offer you one on one training, personal coaches and you
WILL RECEIVE ALL YOUR INVESTMENT BACK WITHIN 90 DAY'S.
It sure sounded like the kind of deal I couldn't turn down.
Then came the price, $ 6,250.00, the total cost of this amazing money
making opportunity, being put on my credit card.
After I told him that there was NO WAY I COULD AFFORD TO PAY
MY CREDIT CARD FOR THIS, he said I would have ALL MY MONEY BACK
BEFORE THE STATEMENT CAME IN.
My wife knowing that I was in such a deep depression thought this
was the LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, convinced me to
go ahead and do it.
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A NIGHTMARE, that I live each
day.
Set up a Ebay selling account , but product's from a dropshipper to
sell, and within a short time, maybe even DAY'S you will have most
if not all your money back.
I asked JP if I had to spend more money after I paid the $ 6,250,
and he said the only money I had to pay was a hosting fee,of $ 39.95
per month, for a website they wanted me to setup to sell dropship product's.
I told him that was a lot of money for a hosting fee, and that I already deal
with a hosting company that was less expensive, can't I just use the
one I have.
He said we need you to use our host because it is easier for us to help
you setup your website, we do most of the work REMOTELY from
our office.
The help that I received and the tool's they supplied me with were no
better than what you can get online for free, and on Ebay.
The so called HELP was no help at all.
I would call and ask a question, and they would answer something that
made no sense. It was like they were answering someone else.
After a few time's that turned into them saying you need to keep at it,
you need to list item's over and over untill they sell.
They said, JP, that IT TAKES TIME TO MAKE MONEY, YOU JUST HAVE
TO KEEP AT IT.
Well the dropshipper's prices were HIGHER than what I could get them for
on Ebay, the place they insist I sell.
How can I sell something for LESS THEN I PAY ?
After week after week, hour after hour, and email after email, and phone
call after phone call, getting RIDICULOUS ANSWER'S, I couldn't handle
it anymore.
I emailed them and said I wanted my money back.
They refused. I was sent an email from S--N, a so called manager.
His email also made NO SENSE.
Contact me by phone so we can help you.
Call so he could talk me into spending more money I dont have.
I had my wife contact them, and they said if I wouldnt LET THEM
HELP ME , THEY COULDNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
She asked what she could do, and AGAIN THE DOUBLE TALK WENT
ON.
Again telling her that it takes time to make money, just keep listing
item's over and over, and get your website built.
If I cant make a sale with instant customers, now, how long do you think
it would take to sell products from a website.
They wanted their hosting fee every month, and who knows what else they
would get out of me before I had another heart attack.
THE NAME THRIVE FITS THEM TO THE TEE !
THEY THRIVE ON ANYONE THEY CAN.
My Ebay listing fee's were over $ 150.00, and going up with no sales
and all they keep saying is keep at it, and you need to get your website
setup so you can sell from it.
I started to setup the website, they had a MERCHANT CREDIT CARD
SERVICE CALL ME.
You need to do this so you can accept credit cards on your website.
I gave the info the girl wanted, and said what if I didn't go through with
this, can I cancel?
She said yes, just DON'T ACTIVATE the account and cancel it, you have
45 days before you get billed.
I said get billed for what?
She said there is a minimum charge of $ 25.00 a month if you have
no sales from your website.
Well, I canceled within 3 weeks, and what a surprise I got.
I sent 3 email's telling them to cancel my account. And when I
spoke to her on the phone I said that I would not be setting up
the website because of a DISPUTE with Thrive.
She said she NEVER HEARD OF THRIVE but agreed to cancel.
Come to find out they involved 2 other companies, and I dont know
why. One was American Express.
When I received a welcome package from American Express, I didnt know what it
was for, so I called.
The guy I talked to said this was for my MERCHANT ACCOUNT.
I told him I did not have a merchant account or a business, that I did
start to setup an online business but didnt continue because of a
disput with THRIVE.
Again, this guy from American Express said he didnt know who that was.
He canceled the account on the spot.
The other is Imax. Which I have no idea who they are or what they
do except charge money.
I really dont know which of these two charged me, it wasnt American Express.
I was getting $ 45.00 taken RIGHT OUT OF MY BANK, without ever
knowing.
This whole deal with Thrive has been a nightmare.
My feeling for them cannot being told here.
I figured out EXACTLY HOW THEY WORK.
WHAT THEY DO IS GIVE YOU THE WORST COACHING YOU
CAN GET. THEY GIVE YOU ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS
THAT MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO GET
FRUSTRATED AND THEN THEY SAY YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT
They are the worst people that live. their purpose is NEVER to help
anyone make money but THEM.
They don't know how to make HONEST MONEY.
The biggest SCAM is to tell you what you want to hear UNTIL
THEY GET YOUR MONEY.
Then they never refuse to help you and will talk to you all day long,
never giving you ANY INFORMATION THAT WILL REALLY HELP.
And thats their SCAM.
Helping WITHOUT HELPING YOU.
The more they HELP you, the more frustrated you become until
you cant take it anymore.
You wind up not dealing with them anymore, your choice, and
they KEEP ALL YOUR MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING THAT
WAS PROMISED.
WHAT A SCAM.
STAY AWAY FROM THRIVE LEARNING INSTITUTION
YOU DONT WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING FROM THEM !
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